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Groq Llama 4 Scout 17B 16e Instruct vs Qwen3.8 Max Preview

Compare Groq Llama 4 Scout 17B 16e Instruct from Llama and Qwen3.8 Max Preview from Qwen on key metrics including benchmarks, price, context length, and other model features. Access both models and hundreds of others through the AIHubMix API.

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Groq Llama 4 Scout 17B 16e Instruct
Llama · → text

Input$0.122 /M
Output$0.366 /M
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Qwen3.8 Max Preview
Qwen · text, image, video → text

Qwen 3.8 Max Preview(Qwen3.8-Max-Preview) is the latest-generation foundation model in the Qwen family, packing 2.4T parameters and still evolving. Compared with the previous flagship Qwen 3.7 Max, it delivers major gains in core capabilities like Coding and Cowork (professional productivity), with world-leading performance on complex, long-horizon tasks such as full-stack development, data analysis, and Office workflows. Launch offer: Credits are consumed at just 20% of the standard rate, effectively 5× your usage. Limited time only.

Input$0.338 /M
Output$1.014 /M
Cache read$0.0338 /M

Pricing & Specifications

Prices are per million tokens. Time to First Token and throughput are rolling averages measured on AIHubMix.

Groq Llama 4 Scout 17B 16e Instruct
Qwen3.8 Max Preview
Input /M
$0.122
$0.338
Output /M
$0.366
$1.014
Cache read /M
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$0.0338
Context length
0
1,000,000
Max output
0
131,072
Time to First Token
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2.4 s
Throughput
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48.1 tok/s
Modalities
textimagevideo
Supported Parameters
toolsfunction callingstructured outputsweblong contextthinking
API Formats
Released
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July 19, 2026

Promotional prices show the discounted rate; see each model page for promotion windows.

Activity Past 30 Days

Daily traffic served through AIHubMix — how demand for each model is trending.

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Tokens / day

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Requests / day

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Performance Past 3 Days

Measured on real AIHubMix traffic, hourly buckets. Gaps mean no traffic in that hour.

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Throughput (tok/s)

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TTFT (s)

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Uptime (%)

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LMArena Benchmarks

LMArena ratings by capability (Bradley-Terry, commonly called Elo). Higher is better.

Text
groq-llama-4-scout-17b-16e-instructqwen3.8-max-preview
1260134014201500
Overall
13231480
Coding
13621520
Math
13091497
Hard prompts
13301502
Instruction following
13011477
Multi-turn
13211493
Creative writing
12901466
Longer query
13271492
Chinese
13151536
English
13411488
Vision
groq-llama-4-scout-17b-16e-instructqwen3.8-max-preview
1100118012601340
Overall
11281300
OCR
11291315
Diagram
11461326
Homework
11491334

Source: LMArena (arena.ai) leaderboard, imported by AIHubMix. Models without published ratings are omitted per chart.

Cost calculator

Estimate your monthly bill for the same workload on each model.

Groq Llama 4 Scout 17B 16e Instruct
$12.81 /mo
Qwen3.8 Max Preview
$35.49 /mo

Monthly = daily × 30. Discounted rates applied where a promotion is active.

FAQ

Which is cheaper: Groq Llama 4 Scout 17B 16e Instruct, Qwen3.8 Max Preview?

Groq Llama 4 Scout 17B 16e Instruct: $0.366/M output tokens; Qwen3.8 Max Preview: $1.014/M. Use the cost calculator above to estimate your own workload.

How do their coding arena scores compare?

Qwen3.8 Max Preview: 1520; Groq Llama 4 Scout 17B 16e Instruct: 1362 (LMArena coding leaderboard).

Can I call Groq Llama 4 Scout 17B 16e Instruct and Qwen3.8 Max Preview with the same API key?

Yes. AIHubMix serves every model on this page behind one OpenAI-compatible endpoint, so switching between them is a one-line change to the model field — no second account, key or SDK.

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