Models

Grok 4 vs Qwen3.8 Max Preview

Output tokens cost $16.50 per million on Grok 4 and $1.01 per million on Qwen3.8 Max Preview. Input tokens cost $3.30 per million on Grok 4 and $0.34 per million on Qwen3.8 Max Preview. Cached input tokens are billed at $0.83 per million on Grok 4 and $0.03 per million on Qwen3.8 Max Preview. Context lengths are 256,000 tokens on Grok 4 and 983,616 tokens on Qwen3.8 Max Preview. Time to first token (TTFT) measured on AIHubMix is 2.7s on Grok 4 and 2.4s on Qwen3.8 Max Preview. Measured output throughput is 54.5 tok/s on Grok 4 and 48.1 tok/s on Qwen3.8 Max Preview. On the LMArena coding leaderboard Grok 4 scores 1436 and Qwen3.8 Max Preview scores 1520.

GrokGrok 4QwenQwen3.8 Max Preview
Grok logo
Grok 4
Grok · text, image → text

Grok, their latest and greatest flagship model, offers unparalleled performance in natural language, math, and reasoning – the perfect jack of all trades. The current pointing model version is grok-4-0709.

Input$3.30 /M
Output$16.50 /M
Qwen logo
Qwen3.8 Max Preview
Qwen · text, image → text

Qwen 3.8 Max Preview(Qwen3.8-Max-Preview) is the latest-generation foundation model in the Qwen family, packing 2.4T parameters and still evolving. Compared with the previous flagship Qwen 3.7 Max, it delivers major gains in core capabilities like Coding and Cowork (professional productivity), with world-leading performance on complex, long-horizon tasks such as full-stack development, data analysis, and Office workflows. Launch offer: Credits are consumed at just 20% of the standard rate, effectively 5× your usage. Limited time only.

Input$0.34 /M
Output$1.01 /M

Pricing & Specifications

Prices are per million tokens. Time to First Token and throughput are rolling averages measured on AIHubMix.

Grok 4
Qwen3.8 Max Preview
Input /M
$3.30
$0.34
Output /M
$16.50
$1.01
Cache read /M
$0.83
$0.03
Context length
256,000
983,616
Max output
64,000
131,072
Time to First Token
2.7 s
2.4 s
Throughput
54.5 tok/s
48.1 tok/s
Modalities
textimage
textimage
Supported Parameters
function callingstructured outputsthinking
toolsfunction callingstructured outputsweblong contextthinking
API Formats
Released
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Promotional prices show the discounted rate; see each model page for promotion windows.

Activity Past 30 Days

Daily traffic served through AIHubMix — how demand for each model is trending.

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Tokens / day

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Requests / day

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Performance Past 3 Days

Measured on real AIHubMix traffic, hourly buckets. Gaps mean no traffic in that hour.

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Throughput (tok/s)

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TTFT (s)

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Uptime (%)

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LMArena Benchmarks

LMArena ratings by capability (Bradley-Terry, commonly called Elo). Higher is better.

Text
grok-4qwen3.8-max-preview
1380144015001560
Overall
14101481
Coding
14361520
Math
14281504
Hard prompts
14201506
Instruction following
13971478
Multi-turn
14121496
Creative writing
13971469
Longer query
14171497
Chinese
14341545
English
14191486
Vision
grok-4qwen3.8-max-preview
1140120012601320
Overall
11821302
OCR
11751317
Diagram
11911331
Homework
11721335

Source: LMArena (arena.ai) leaderboard, imported by AIHubMix. Models without published ratings are omitted per chart.

Cost calculator

Estimate your monthly bill for the same workload on each model.

Qwen3.8 Max Preview
$35.49 /mo
Grok 4
$446 /mo

Monthly = daily × 30. Discounted rates applied where a promotion is active.

FAQ

Which is cheaper: Grok 4, Qwen3.8 Max Preview?

Qwen3.8 Max Preview: $1.01/M output tokens; Grok 4: $16.50/M. Use the cost calculator above to estimate your own workload.

How do their coding arena scores compare?

Qwen3.8 Max Preview: 1520; Grok 4: 1436 (LMArena coding leaderboard).

Which responds faster?

Qwen3.8 Max Preview: 2.4s time to first token measured on AIHubMix; see the live performance charts above for how each model behaves across the day.

How large is each context window?

Grok 4 accepts 256,000 and Qwen3.8 Max Preview accepts 983,616 input tokens. Maximum output per request is 64,000 tokens on Grok 4 and 131,072 tokens on Qwen3.8 Max Preview.

Which one generates tokens faster?

Grok 4 at 54.5 tok/s and Qwen3.8 Max Preview at 48.1 tok/s, measured as output throughput on AIHubMix — a separate metric from time to first token.

What inputs and capabilities does each model support?

Grok 4 accepts text and image input and supports function calling, structured outputs and thinking; Qwen3.8 Max Preview accepts text and image input and supports tool calling, function calling, structured outputs, web search, long context and thinking.

Can I call Grok 4 and Qwen3.8 Max Preview with the same API key?

Yes. AIHubMix serves every model on this page behind one OpenAI-compatible endpoint, so switching between them is a one-line change to the model field — no second account, key or SDK.

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